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Technical Specifications
Two-seater biplan for training
Date first flight
November 17, 1938
9.45 m 
7.74 m 
3.0 m 
Wing Area
22.4 m2 
Empty Weight
780 Kg 
Max. Takeoff Weight
1040 Kg 
Cruising Speed
184 km/h. 
Maximum Speed
217 km/h at 2000m 
Climbing Speed
3000m in 15mn and 56s
Service ceilling
2 men
1 Engine Alfa Romeo 115-I 6 Cylindres of 185 Hp
No Armament



100 Caproni 164 was sold by the Italians in France.

To date, of the 100 aircrafts manufactured, 0 are listed in the list below :



In 1937, the Italian Ministry of Air launched a tender for a single-engined aircraft to replace the Ca.100. Societies Saiman and Caproni respond to demand. Caproni, which won the market, offers a new device, the Ca.164, evolution of the current Ca.100.

The Ca.164, studied by Raffaele Conflenti, is a two-seat biplane with inverted sesquiplan wing: the shortest plane is the upper wing. It is of mixed wood and steel conception: the wing structure is made of wood, formed in Plywood on the leading edge and covered on the rest. The fins are arranged on the lower wing and the two wings are connected by tubular steel mats and cables. The fuselage consists of a welded tubular structure covered with Duralumin at the front and lined for the rear part. The aircraft is equipped with dual-controls, the instructor taking place in the rear cockpit. The Ca.164, heavier than the Ca 100, receives an engine Alfa Romeo 115-I 6 Cylinders of 185 hp more powerful than that of his predecessor (85 hp). The apparatus is to be produced in the Caproni Aeronautica Predappio factories near Forli. The manufacture of Ca.164 will save the site, whose only activity, the licensed production of Savoia-Marchetti SM81, will end.

The Caproni Ca.164 makes its first flight November 17, 1938 in Forli. The first tests show a lack of maneuverability and modest performance. A comparison with a Breda Ba25 confirms the little gains made by the Ca.164 ... However, the Department of Flight Testing first issued a favorable opinion on the aircraft in December 1938, before asking for a set of changes to try to improve the aircraft. A pre-order of a dozen Ca.164 is still launched in order to judge the device in a real context. But General Giuseppe Valle, Under-Secretary of State at the Ministry of the Air, ignoring the recommendations, launches an order of 50 copies ...

After the application of the requested changes, the Ca.164 is tested again, but in March 1939, it is confirmed that the device does not bring improvements compared to Breda.25 or Ca.100 ... From Due to its poor handling, the aircraft can not be used in the Freestyle School, and its role will be to provide an easy-to-ride frame for students to increase their flying hours. 150 new copies will be ordered from this perspective. Serial production really began in July 1939, and the first production aircraft was presented in flight school in the autumn of 1939. In March 1940, a commission chaired by General Francesco Pricolo wondered about the best possible use of Caproni Ca.164, and finally, the aircraft will be used mainly as a liaison aircraft within the Italian bombing units. Some copies will be used from June 1941 for the training of night fighter pilots, others will be converted into target tugs. In total, approximately 280 units will be taken into account by Régia aeronautica.

It was in January 1940 that France ordered 100 Caproni Ca.164 to Italy. This order responds more to a desire to keep good relations with Italy, than to a real need... It seems that the majority of delivered aircraft were transferred to AFN.



The Air Force only used one version of Caproni Ca.164



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